|
|
Post by buffalochips on Mar 29, 2014 20:27:58 GMT
In fact one of the guys who dropped his first round pick is someone who is hollering loudest about all these trades being unfair and vetoing them. Tells you all you need to know there  . |
|
|
|
Post by jaguarsgm on Mar 29, 2014 20:32:06 GMT
The vote hasn't been vetoed yet, IMO and this needs to be finished. Because this trade will set precedent, whether the trade has been revoked or not it has to be settled in my opinion.
|
|
|
|
Post by rustycolts on Mar 29, 2014 20:43:59 GMT
Its been about 37 hours and trade not settled yet.More and more players coming off the board this really needs to be decided or it won't be worth it to me if it is approved.
|
|
|
|
Post by Redskins GM on Mar 29, 2014 21:59:38 GMT
I disaprove. (3.5 - 4.5) 13M isn't that bad for a foundation player like Teddy or Watkins. Don't see the value difference as fair.
|
|
mike
New Member
Posts: 23 
|
Post by mike on Mar 29, 2014 22:35:44 GMT
I think the DOT is ruling on all trades by majority rule. That is what makes it fair. It's clear there is a ton of experience and various opinions on the trades and the process of arriving at a valid trade. If in the off season the league proposes rule changes for next season and the changes are voted on and carried that would be fair enough for me.
|
|
|
|
Post by piratehooker on Mar 30, 2014 1:11:55 GMT
I think the DOT is ruling on all trades by majority rule. That is what makes it fair. It's clear there is a ton of experience and various opinions on the trades and the process of arriving at a valid trade. If in the off season the league proposes rule changes for next season and the changes are voted on and carried that would be fair enough for me. Wtf what are you saying? Rule changes regarding what? And of course the DOT is ruled by majority thanks for this useless paragraph. Just answer me this (vikings and redskins) what are you trying to prevent by vetoing this trade, do you really think this is going to unbalance the league and make it unfair? Do you have a hard on for phins/cards? Even as DOT (or any person voting for that matter) your only responsibility is to prevent anyone from frauding the league by teaming up. You are actually fundamentally wrong in suggesting collusion is not the only reason you have to veto. I honestly can't fathom what you're trying to prevent, either you have a learning disability and don't understand or you two are frauding the league yourselves with this veto by not allowing GMs to run there teams. |
|
mike
New Member
Posts: 23
|
Post by mike on Mar 30, 2014 1:34:18 GMT
Learning disability? Fraud? You are no Saint and wow what a vocabulary. Thanks for all the wisdom. What would we ever do without you. Us dumb animals would probably just go along with the bylaws and have a false sense of happiness. Thanks for giving us the 411 on whatever pops into you head bro.
|
|
|
|
Post by piratehooker on Mar 30, 2014 1:59:54 GMT
Let's be clear, I'm am just talking to you and redskins because you simply aren't understanding what the veto is for.And wow what a surprise you didn't answer my question you just took offense and and tried to make me look like an asshole for trying to help you. (Maybe a bit rudely but that's what it takes sometimes)
So answer the question what are you trying to prevent?
|
|
|
|
Post by Redskins GM on Mar 30, 2014 2:07:09 GMT
Just trying to do what I signed up for dude. You should be less passionate about theses matters. If we're so wrong the trade will happen. Unless it's not and it won't pass cause hey, majority decides.
Good job being an internet tough guy by the way. Seems like this league have some characters. Time will tell if that's a good thing.
|
|
|
|
Post by Redskins GM on Mar 30, 2014 2:11:04 GMT
Hey commish are we doing anything wrong here? Cause if I do I'll resign I don't give a crap.
|
|
|
|
Post by buffalochips on Mar 30, 2014 2:15:40 GMT
OK so I need you guys to educate me since I am obviously not seeing your point of view. Would anyone vetoing the trade be actually willing to step up and make a better offer for the Dolphins pick? If it is such an unbalanced trade shouldn't a bunch of guys be jumping at it? If not how can you veto it?
No name calling here, just want to know.
|
|
|
|
Post by Johnny on Mar 30, 2014 2:44:09 GMT
How can this trade possibly be worse than MJD plus 1.06 given up for a second and third. Oh yeah an involved party here did vote against that one. At least some guys were consistent but add me to those who are concerned.
|
|
|
|
Post by piratehooker on Mar 30, 2014 2:49:08 GMT
I guess when you argue to the point where someone realizes they're wrong it makes you a tough guy lol whatever man I don't want there to be hard feelings or anything for real. Was just trying to change the thinking on the matter so like jags said, a precedent is set.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 3:57:33 GMT
I'm with mr.Buffalochips... and I think mike's point of view on DOT is off... or at least I hope so. Trades should only be vetoed if they clearly impact the ability of a team to compete in the future or if there is collusion... Seriously how could someone read my post on page 1 and not approve this trade. I could take that 13M for pick 1 right now and turn it into 3-5 guys that would make this team look lopsided for the guy getting the 1st. Remember guys that no one else was willing to pay 13M for pick 1.1. We all have different opinions of what certain players are worth, and how important cap is... people voting on trades need to realize that some people have different views on these things and that doesn't make the trade vetoable. People have different opinions on players and that doesn't mean they are wrong. Dot should be vetoing trades only when it is blatantly obvious that the trade is unfair. In a league a couple years ago I saw a trade get vetoed that was Christian Ponder for Russell Wilson and a bit more. Russell had just won the starting job and Ponder was actually looking decent at the time. DOT determined that it wasn't a fair trade for the guy getting Wilson and vetoed the trade... It's very sad when a team gets screwed because other people who happened to volunteer for a trade board think they know more than the owner. GO LOOK AT THE AUCTION PAGE and see what 13M can buy you right now and please justify why that isn't worth your pick of litter on rookies this year. Even if you think it is worth that, you should be able to understand why someone else might want to take a stab at 3-5 of these guys over one rookie that could be a bust. DOT is not here to make decisions for teams.
|
|
|
|
Post by piratehooker on Mar 30, 2014 4:12:02 GMT
quote author=" mike" source="/post/377/thread" timestamp="1396119829"]This should not be approved and we all know it. Determining collusion is not the focus of the DOT. Fair trades is the focus. Collusion is and always will be something that a commissioner(s) working with MFL administrators determine. 1.1 is worth much more so be thankful for the veto's.[/quote] Fuck sorry guys I hate to keep going because I don't want everyone to think I'm being a dick. But what I have quoted here is where the disagreement is. fair trades is not the focus, GM interest is the focus, that magic word again can you guess it? Just put yourself in dolphins shoes, he has 7 players and 7.2 mil in cap space. What wouldn't you do to clear cap at that point? I went through the same thing and I shipped my 1.03 and let someone else pay for it. And sorry for being ride earlier. This is the last thing I'll say about this trade. |
|
.
